they do not need it, martha. those 120,000 families make $8 million a year. middle-class people need the help. why does my friend cut out the tuition tax cret for them? why -- >> can you declare anything -- can you declare anything off limits? >> we are saying high-interest people. >> home mortgage deductions? >> you can guarantee that no one making less than $100,000 will have mortgage deduction impacted? guaranteed? >> he keeps trying to make you think it's a movie star, hedge-fund guy. >> 97% of the small businesses make less than $250,000 a year, would not be affected one bit. >> you know this taxes a million small businesses. >> does it tax 97% of the american businesses? >> it taxes small businesses who are the greatest job creators. >> and you are going to increase the budget. you are going to increase the defense budget. >> they are proposing -- >> increase it $2 billion. >> no massive -- >> we are saying, don't -- you want to get into defense now? >> yes. i do. because that's another math question. >> right, okay. >> how do you do that? >> they propo